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	<title>Comments on: PunkBuster Kicks for Mumble Overlay</title>
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		<title>By: TinMan</title>
		<link>http://neonpulse.net/2008/10/07/punkbuster-kicks-for-mumble-overlay/comment-page-1/#comment-1278</link>
		<dc:creator>TinMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mumble 1.2.3&#039;s overlay is working fine on Q3. PB v2.041 (A1353) client-side, v1.641 server-side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mumble 1.2.3&#8242;s overlay is working fine on Q3. PB v2.041 (A1353) client-side, v1.641 server-side.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy</title>
		<link>http://neonpulse.net/2008/10/07/punkbuster-kicks-for-mumble-overlay/comment-page-1/#comment-1277</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 07:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, as nothing is solved  http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Games#Incompatible_games f. (how to disable overlay) overlay-wise, Google is your friend (:
Now mumble switched from detouring ogl hooks to another cheat related method (: 
hooking the game directly. thus gamehook violation now, if your lucky just a #12k restriction kick. gg. 
http://www.miaclan.net/showthread.php?20350-Punkbuster-kicking-for-overlays (06-26-2011)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, as nothing is solved  <a href="http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Games#Incompatible_games" rel="nofollow">http://mumble.sourceforge.net/Games#Incompatible_games</a> f. (how to disable overlay) overlay-wise, Google is your friend (:<br />
Now mumble switched from detouring ogl hooks to another cheat related method (:<br />
hooking the game directly. thus gamehook violation now, if your lucky just a #12k restriction kick. gg.<br />
<a href="http://www.miaclan.net/showthread.php?20350-Punkbuster-kicking-for-overlays" rel="nofollow">http://www.miaclan.net/showthread.php?20350-Punkbuster-kicking-for-overlays</a> (06-26-2011)</p>
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		<title>By: TinMan</title>
		<link>http://neonpulse.net/2008/10/07/punkbuster-kicks-for-mumble-overlay/comment-page-1/#comment-1276</link>
		<dc:creator>TinMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, three years later! I recall using Mumble all the time on PB servers prior to an update, so it did work at one time. Either way, it works fine now. I would assume this was fixed on the Mumble side of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, three years later! I recall using Mumble all the time on PB servers prior to an update, so it did work at one time. Either way, it works fine now. I would assume this was fixed on the Mumble side of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Skippy</title>
		<link>http://neonpulse.net/2008/10/07/punkbuster-kicks-for-mumble-overlay/comment-page-1/#comment-1275</link>
		<dc:creator>Skippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 06:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;PunkBuster added a restriction to something that wasn’t restricted before which now disallows the Mumble overlay. &quot;
False. it was never allowed and the restriction is in place (in all pb supported games, so fyi it has nothing to do with q3)  since there is  pb, i.e. b4 mumble was around. Again, the method mumble uses is more popular than ever for rendering external ESP (bounding boxes) hacks. 
So asking to remove a valid cheat detection is wrong, will fail, and with reason.

10/04/2008 07:08:47 - &quot;Hendrik Thole&quot;
Note #3: &quot;I&#039;m sorry, but the method that mumble is using to hook into the game/operating system to enable the overlay is a method that PunkBuster does not allow. We do not have a whitelist of programs that are allowed. The mumble developers will need to contact us for help in making the necessary changes to allow their overlay to work.&quot;

... a voice chat program overlay hooking opengl functions
 that is what 90003 is, OGL hooks

so stop being a backseat driver and ask yourself. 
http://ssl.evenbalance.com/troubleticket/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;PunkBuster added a restriction to something that wasn’t restricted before which now disallows the Mumble overlay. &#8221;<br />
False. it was never allowed and the restriction is in place (in all pb supported games, so fyi it has nothing to do with q3)  since there is  pb, i.e. b4 mumble was around. Again, the method mumble uses is more popular than ever for rendering external ESP (bounding boxes) hacks.<br />
So asking to remove a valid cheat detection is wrong, will fail, and with reason.</p>
<p>10/04/2008 07:08:47 &#8211; &#8220;Hendrik Thole&#8221;<br />
Note #3: &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry, but the method that mumble is using to hook into the game/operating system to enable the overlay is a method that PunkBuster does not allow. We do not have a whitelist of programs that are allowed. The mumble developers will need to contact us for help in making the necessary changes to allow their overlay to work.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; a voice chat program overlay hooking opengl functions<br />
 that is what 90003 is, OGL hooks</p>
<p>so stop being a backseat driver and ask yourself.<br />
<a href="http://ssl.evenbalance.com/troubleticket/" rel="nofollow">http://ssl.evenbalance.com/troubleticket/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ZeriouS</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZeriouS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if that has been fixed in the meanwhile, since I support Mumble within the UT2004 and WarSow community. I know Quake3 is something different, but still this and other small issues can be put as an argument against the use of this soundwise high-quality program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if that has been fixed in the meanwhile, since I support Mumble within the UT2004 and WarSow community. I know Quake3 is something different, but still this and other small issues can be put as an argument against the use of this soundwise high-quality program.</p>
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